Edited June 21, 2009 by imarangemaster In my opinion Barnaul ammo is superior to Wolf. My oldest son lives in Europe, so he doesn't get much pistol shooting in. I've had zero issues with anything Barnaul in any caliber. I noticed that Brown Bear 7.62x39 is also 123 gr. I’m looking to buy Barnaul 7.62x39 125g SP but its scarce does Barnaul still sell ammo or is it all under brown/silver/golden bear now? The only Wolf I keep is a couple hundred of their 154 JSP boat tail rounds which are good deer thumpers. Brown Bear: 10,000 Rounds Fired, 9 Stoppages. When I say "better", I mean better accuracy and better reliability. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. Hornady SST would be the best bet. migkillertwo Member. Barnaul link. ... Wolf functions well but had a couple of rounds hang up on the feed. That being said, in my personal experience, in my rifles the Wolf seems to hold tighter groups than Tula out beyond 50 yards. From what I can gather there’s two main places foreign 7.62 comes from. Also wolf and brown bear 762 125g sp are a lot more abundant, is wolf and bear just rebranding Barnaul round? The only real difference i've seen is the type of coating they put on the rounds. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} Just had to nudge the bolt to load. Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have a deep appreciation of what this country is and what the American people are capable of. WPA stands for Wolf Performance Ammunition as far as I know. I do seem to prefer Silver Bear over Brown Bear in my 9x18 Makarovs though. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase;display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} Just as good as the others. Wolf or Silver Bear? Barnaul logo on the box. The Wolf … Hornady recommends this bullet for "medium game" (Class 2), which would presumably include wolf, cougar and possibly black bear, but not grizzly, brown and polar bear. After stockpiling wolf poly for a few years I finally bought a case of Barnaul lacquer FMJ and two crates of Yugo M67. Wolf: 10,000 Rounds Fired, 15 Stoppages. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:bottom}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} For the test, 10,000 rounds each of Federal, Brown Bear, Wolf, and Tula ammunition in caliber .223 Remington were used. As far as AK ammo goes, there isn't much difference at all. Because of YouTube new anti gun polices, all links from our YouTube videos were removed. The thing I love about RobSkis reviews, especially ammo, is that he doesn’t just shoot some rounds and say “yeah, looks good”. None of the brown silver or golden bear ammo is corrosive,its all new manufacture non corrosive ammo. In general, Brown Bear is going to be slightly cheaper though it varies. Hear it loud, hear it clearly. Wolf also sells centerfire pistol ammo in all of the most common calibers – including Wolf 9mm ammo, .40 S&W, .45 ACP and the increasingly favored .380 Auto. Silver Bear is not a Wolf brand. I am about to purchase my first AK and have been looking at prices on the different 7.62 x 39 ammo. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} Also, Silver-bear is slightly hotter (more … I think the Wolf ammo has better quality control. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action Yesterday, I bought some Wolf for, Can't comment on the AK stuff, but the 9mm stuff is good target ammo--and cheap. - Cicero 55 B.C. Contact Information. I also have the AMD it will eat anything you feed it mine has a few thousand rounds through it no problems.I personally use the bear ammo congrats on a fine purchase you will love it. Wolf “Milspec” no matter the caliber is lacquered and sealed cartridges from Barnaul. This can be costly, but not too bad when you use 123 grain full metal jacket 7.62x39 ammo from Brown Bear! Some people say that the laquer sometimes melts and gums up your action. Near the end of testing, experienced shooters will be interested to know Brown Bear ammunition delivered much lower muzzle velocity than Wolf … Brown Bear x39 bullets are not boat-tailed. A forum community dedicated to Taurus firearm owners and enthusiasts. Tula and Silver Bear tend to have a clear polymer while the Brown Bear have a laquer coating that has a green hue to it. The various “Bear” series of ammo is mostly, if not exclusively, Barnaul AFAIK. I can get a 700rd sealed can of Brown Bear fmj 7.62x39mm ammo for 188 bucks. It is cleaner and more accurate. 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JavaScript is disabled. Polymer or laquered steel case ammo will both work great in an AK. Brown Bear seals these rounds using a lacquer coating to reduce the effects of corrosion, and they have driven manufacturing costs of this 7.62x39mm ammo for decades. wolf ammo link. "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" Ben Franklin. I've ran 7.62x39 (White Box from SG Ammo and Wolf Mil-Spec), 5.45x39 (Brown Bear, Silver Bear, Wolf Mil-Spec, Monarch), some of their .223 (Monarch through my AR), their 9x18 (Brown Bear through my Makarov), and some of their 9mm (Monarch through a Glock and my CZ Scorpion). Barnaul (Brown Bear) is better than Wolf. TG International FEG AMD-65 7.62x39 AK Variant $439.00 SHIPS FREE, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Watch your use of Tula in some firearms..does not cycle well in some brands, like my Taurus PT145 Pro, won't feed reliably, it gets caught in the mag and noses down in the magazine.. Haven't tried any brass in the Mosin, but i know my P-64 doesn't take too kindly to brass at all. When I had my Saiga 7.62x39 I bought Barnaul range and hunting ammo for it. Other lines of Wolf ammo (e.g. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} This is a hunch, but the difference is bullet weights may be for this reason.. Luckygunner.com has some videos on them all. As far as AK ammo goes, there isn't much difference at all. I am a better American today because of Barack Obama. Wolf is made by Tula mostly. http://www.luckygunner.com/ammo-manufacturer/golden-tiger-ammo-review. I shot Wolf and Barnaul in an M4gery I had, and the Wolf was WAY dirtier and not as reliable. http://www.dkgtrading.com/bear-co.html. Since I have not bought AK/SKS ammo in quite some time...is this a decent deal? Some of them like the Wolf Gold (I think) have brass washed cases so they look like they're brass cased, but it's the same steel case. He takes legit measurements, controls for environmentals, and delivers objective data that can you quantify and compare. Not sure about the Brown Bear ammo as I haven’t bought any but if you can determine factory location then it should be pretty easy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Ammunition. ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. they all work. i use wolf, silver bear and brown bear ammo in my sks and makarov. ._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ{border-top:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-line);margin-top:16px;padding-top:16px}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN{margin:0;padding:0}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:21px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;margin:8px 0}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ.QgBK4ECuqpeR2umRjYcP2{opacity:.4}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ label{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._2NbKFI9n3wPM76pgfAPEsN ._2btz68cXFBI3RWcfSNwbmJ label svg{fill:currentColor;height:20px;margin-right:4px;width:20px}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._4OtOUaGIjjp2cNJMUxme_{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;padding:0;width:100%}._3Qx5bBCG_O8wVZee9J-KyJ ._4OtOUaGIjjp2cNJMUxme_ svg{display:inline-block;height:12px;width:12px}.isInButtons2020 ._4OtOUaGIjjp2cNJMUxme_{padding:0 12px}.isInButtons2020 ._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:unset;line-height:16px;text-transform:unset}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F{--textColor:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor);--textColorHover:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColorShaded80);font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;color:var(--textColor);fill:var(--textColor);opacity:1}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F._2UlgIO1LIFVpT30ItAtPfb{--textColor:var(--newRedditTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor);--textColorHover:var(--newRedditTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColorShaded80)}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F:active,._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F:hover{color:var(--textColorHover);fill:var(--textColorHover)}._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F:disabled,._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F[data-disabled],._1ra1vBLrjtHjhYDZ_gOy8F[disabled]{opacity:.5;cursor:not-allowed} I've also had it leave fouling marks on my bolt face. I can't say the same thing about Uly and Tula ammo. 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Silver Bear is zinc-coated steel cased, golden-bear is brass-coated steel cased ammo, and brown-bear is just laquer coated steel-cased ammo. Cookies help us deliver our Services. All of the aforementioned brands are great! This is not a setback. they are dirty, foul smelling rounds that work every time. Sale 22 Nosler Nosler Bullets Brass Ammunition Rifles And Steel Cased 9mm Ammo Te I’m heard their all the same from Barnaul’s factory. Especially Sellier & Bollier, which may just be a tad "hot" in their loading specs. Re: Brown Bear Vs. Wolf for AK Any country that has ever issued the AK47 to troops has never used zinc or poly coated ammo!That was designed for the US market, It has always been Laquered steel cased ammo (except Yugoslavia) In turn, Golden Bear (not tested) features brass-plated steel cases. Golden Tiger is made by Vympel in Russia. Logged. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. These cartridges come in the steel-case lines of Military Classic and Polyformance, and the calibers can also be found in the Wolf Gold line, .32 Auto, .357 Mag., .44 Mag., and 7.62 Tokarev. 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Do whatever floats your boat as long as you don't sink mine. The only real difference i've seen is the type of coating they put on the rounds. I don’t know the mixture of manufacturers in .223/5.56. The next step up from Brown Bear, Silver Bear ammo has zinc-coated steel cases. Anybody shot Brown Bear ammo? the ammo is coated with a vanish like material that will gum up over time so you may have to clean more, but they are basically all the same. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} Brown Bear is made by Barnaul. By Phil Shoemaker via NRA’s americanhunter.org. I believe Bear and Barnul are made in the same factory. ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} Brown Bear that I've seen sports the Barnaul factory headstamp, Wolf, WPA and others usually have the Tula Cartridge Works marking although I have seen Wolf MC with the Ulyanovsk headstamp. .c_dVyWK3BXRxSN3ULLJ_t{border-radius:4px 4px 0 0;height:34px;left:0;position:absolute;right:0;top:0}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;margin-top:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._33jgwegeMTJ-FJaaHMeOjV{border-radius:9001px;height:32px;width:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._1wQQNkVR4qNpQCzA19X4B6{height:16px;margin-left:8px;width:200px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:12px 0}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._29TSdL_ZMpyzfQ_bfdcBSc{-ms-flex:1;flex:1}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx .JEV9fXVlt_7DgH-zLepBH{height:18px;width:50px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._3YCOmnWpGeRBW_Psd5WMPR{height:12px;margin-top:4px;width:60px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN{height:18px;margin-bottom:4px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2E9u5XvlGwlpnzki78vasG{width:230px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN.fDElwzn43eJToKzSCkejE{width:100%}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2kNB7LAYYqYdyS85f8pqfi{width:250px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._1XmngqAPKZO_1lDBwcQrR7{width:120px}._3XbVvl-zJDbcDeEdSgxV4_{border-radius:4px;height:32px;margin-top:16px;width:100%}._2hgXdc8jVQaXYAXvnqEyED{animation:_3XkHjK4wMgxtjzC1TvoXrb 1.5s ease infinite;background:linear-gradient(90deg,var(--newCommunityTheme-field),var(--newCommunityTheme-inactive),var(--newCommunityTheme-field));background-size:200%}._1KWSZXqSM_BLhBzkPyJFGR{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBackgroundColor);border-radius:4px;padding:12px;position:relative;width:auto} The three Bears, Silver, Brown, Golden and Monarch brand sold at Acadamy Sports are all made by Barnaul in Russia. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} 125G sp are a mixture of manufacturers in.223/5.56 is Brown Bear: 10,000 rounds each Federal! 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